pjeby comments on How habits work and how you may control them - Less Wrong

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Comment author: pjeby 13 October 2013 06:05:57PM 2 points [-]

Note: self-punishment is particularly useless; you train down the act of punishing yourself more than you train down whatever behavior you’re punishing. This is unpleasant and useless!

Ironically, this doesn't work the same way for self-talk punishment. It's still useless, but for some reason it doesn't train down the self-punishment, it just fails to do anything about what you're punishing.

Comment author: hyporational 15 October 2013 11:59:10AM 1 point [-]

When I'm doing self-talk punishment, it really doesn't feel like I'm punishing myself, but rather berating some other part of my brain that did the wrong thing. Now that I tried the physical punishment, it feels like I'm punishing myself for something that my true identity didn't do.