Lumifer comments on Mathematics as a lossy compression algorithm gone wild - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Lumifer 14 June 2014 08:08:40PM 1 point [-]

We are limited to subjective observations, and can not confirm what objective observations of the universe would be.

What does "objective observations of the universe" mean?

Comment author: [deleted] 15 June 2014 01:25:12AM -1 points [-]

Having knowledge that would not be limited by being an observer, a small part of the universe.

What is time if you're not a creature existing in time?

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 18 June 2014 01:59:20PM 1 point [-]

That is not the usual objective/subjective distinction.

Comment author: Lumifer 15 June 2014 02:34:54AM 1 point [-]

Having knowledge that would not be limited by being an observer

Who/what is the subject of "having knowledge"?

Comment author: [deleted] 15 June 2014 10:15:57AM -1 points [-]

In my opinion that is irrelevant as long as the information is not limited by the nature of the observer. However I don't intend to say that "having knowledge" could have a meaning outside some sort of a subjective thing having it. So I'd like to separate the idea of some kind of truth from a subjective experience of having it. If there is any truth like that. If there was, how could we know, if we don't currently? Does it make sense to contemplate on the possibility of there being knowledge we can't have? We are limited and we can't really think outside the box. Knowing that we can't think outside the box, does not provide the capacity to suggest everything that could be outside the box.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 18 June 2014 02:02:38PM *  2 points [-]

Depends on the value of can't. We can't have the knowledge in the library of Alexandria..but counterfactually we could have had.

Comment author: Lumifer 16 June 2014 02:52:15PM 0 points [-]

So I'd like to separate the idea of some kind of truth from a subjective experience of having it. If there is any truth like that. If there was, how could we know, if we don't currently?

That's a pretty well-trodden philosophy topic :-)