ChristianKl comments on As an upload, would you join the society of full telepaths/empaths? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ChristianKl 15 October 2013 09:48:41PM 2 points [-]

I don't think it's easy to define what it means for one neural net to be directly interfaced with another neural net. Even in todays world I can imagine technology that scans a person emotion and displays them to other people.

There is also the group of those who opted out, and it looks basically like your "normal" mundane human society.

I think the idea that a society of upload will look like a "normal" mundane human society is severely misguided. Not having a body changes much about society.

Comment author: Ishaan 16 October 2013 03:27:11AM *  1 point [-]

Not having a body

You'll have to simulate the body and its environment to some extent anyway, because it's the only interface brains really understand. Imagine how terrified many people would be if 1) their last memory involved imminent death 2) they find that they can think but they can't see, feel, or hear anything? And the long term effects of sensory deprivation are not fun. That's without even getting into phantom pains and other super important things like the off-brain portions of the neuroendocrine system (for the most obvious example, spaying/neutering alters much more than just sexual behavior). The brain is not the only thing doing information processing, it's just the main hub.

If you can simulate brains, there is no reason you can't simulate the rest more or less faithfully if you choose. Or for true realism, make a sensory-motor robot body and wirelessly link it up to the brain-hosting server. If you don't do so, you have to alter brain function to make the absence of body-environment acceptable, which generally seems less favorable.

Comment author: ChristianKl 16 October 2013 01:18:24PM *  2 points [-]

You'll have to simulate the body and its environment to some extent anyway, because it's the only interface brains really understand.

Yes, but I would assume that the simulation doesn't try to mimic physical reality 100%. People probably will be able to teleport around instead of taking a 10 minute walk.

Engaging in hobbies like martial arts or dancing will be much different than it is at the moment.

Look at woman wanting to keep a certain weight to be beautiful to attract a good mate. Look at how guys go to the fitness studio to build big muscles to attract woman. All those physical effects are important for the way our society is made up.