chaosmage comments on As an upload, would you join the society of full telepaths/empaths? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: chaosmage 16 October 2013 10:35:23AM 1 point [-]

With full telepathy, the cognitive illusion of "one self per body" would shatter. To join a telepathic society would be to melt into a hive mind. And that hive mind wouldn't regret the melting of its individual members any more than our bodies regret the loss of individuality of its cells.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 16 October 2013 02:22:56PM 1 point [-]

Are the members of the hive mind analogical to the unthinking cells, or rather to different subsystems of the brain which sometimes do have conflicting goals?

Even if the individualities are lost, there could still be clusters with mutual disagreement. A part of the hive mind wanting to expore the outside world, other part desiring more wireheading...

Comment author: shminux 16 October 2013 03:05:04PM -1 points [-]

I did not suggest shared sensory experiences, precisely to avoid this mind meld. You are also not forced to read other people's thoughts and feelings.

Comment author: chaosmage 16 October 2013 03:45:04PM 4 points [-]

Sensory experiences cannot be clearly distinguished from "thoughts, or just feelings, or both".

You are also not forced to read other people's thoughts and feelings.

I'm not forced to use the internet, either. I'll just be outcompeted if I don't.

Comment author: shminux 16 October 2013 04:22:32PM 2 points [-]

Sensory experiences cannot be clearly distinguished from "thoughts, or just feelings, or both".

I don't think that's quite true. There is some overlap, sure. I imagine reading thoughts like reading a book about something (or maybe watching a movie) rather than actually doing that something. You can be quite immersed, but still not confuse your own thoughts with those on screen.