NancyLebovitz comments on As an upload, would you join the society of full telepaths/empaths? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 16 October 2013 11:13:05PM 2 points [-]

That all makes sense. However, in an ideal telepathic society, people would learn about those who need time to think and space to appreciate what you like, and you'd be cut slack and not be argued with about things that aren't urgent.

For that matter, people who like to argue would always have someone available to argue with.

Comment author: kalium 17 October 2013 12:48:13AM 2 points [-]

Your model of a typical human mind seems fundamentally more charitable than mine.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 17 October 2013 06:19:29PM 0 points [-]

If you're telepathic, you can feel their pain as your own. That's a game-changer.

Comment author: Lumifer 18 October 2013 12:16:42AM 1 point [-]

Public torture of undesirables pour encourager les autres becomes a REALLY effective technique, don't you think?

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 18 October 2013 04:32:59PM -1 points [-]

I was thinking more along the lines of 'Oh shoot. I really hurt them, didn't I?'

Comment author: Lumifer 18 October 2013 04:52:43PM 2 points [-]

Yes, I know.

However another likely thought would be "Good, it *should* hurt, you're a bad person".

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 18 October 2013 05:34:09PM -1 points [-]

Maybe. However, we have been told that this society is said to be happy and not devolved into a shit-flinging match, I suspect that the way it usually works out is more benign. Or they kill/expel the infidels and our happiness sample is biased.

Comment author: Lumifer 18 October 2013 06:28:26PM *  2 points [-]

we have been told that this society is said to be happy and not devolved into a shit-flinging match

Leaving aside the credibility issues of such a claim, I can easily imagine a happy society where most people feel good about themselves and each Sunday they all gather in the pubic square to cheer at the burning of the witches who in their evil little hearts doubted the greatness and the benevolence of X. Pick X to suit.

Comment author: kalium 17 October 2013 11:19:56PM -1 points [-]

You can savor it! A certain subset of people will find that hurting people has suddenly become more fun than ever.

Comment author: mwengler 20 October 2013 05:35:21PM 0 points [-]

People who do this might be killed. Is there a reason to think a telepathic society would be wimpy?

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 17 October 2013 06:55:22AM *  1 point [-]

Just as normal people play a lot of signalling games, the telepathic society would probably invent a new layer of them. (Which does not prove that those games would be worse than those we have now.)

For example, people who need more time to think may be given more space and at the same time could be perceived as e.g. less intelligent -- just how we would automatically feel now about slow-speaking people.