CCC comments on Mysterious Answers to Mysterious Questions - Less Wrong

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Comment author: CCC 19 October 2012 05:37:05PM *  1 point [-]

No, that's not right. What we're interested in here, is P[injury|¬die]. Using Bayes' Theroem:

P[injury|¬die] = {P[¬die|injury]*P[injury]}/P[¬die]

Using the figures you assume, and recalling that "injury" refers only to non-fatal injury (hence P[¬die|injury]==1):

P[injury|¬die] = {1*0.005}/0.505 = 1/101 = approx. 0.00990099

The chances of injury are then not quite double what they would have been without death-immunity. This is reasonably low, because the prior odds of survival at all are reasonably high (0.505) - had the experiment been riskier, such that there was only a 0.01% chance of survival overall, then the chance of injury in the death-immunity case would be correspondingly higher.

(We also have not yet taken into account the effect of the first player - in such a game of Russian Roulette, he who shoots first has a higher prior probability of death).

Comment author: DaFranker 19 October 2012 06:00:45PM 1 point [-]

Thanks for the full Bayes Theorem breakdown.

I agree that this is how it should be reasoned ideally, which I only realized after first posting the grandparent. See other comments and the edit for how I arrived at the 50/50 reasoning. If you know the answer for the bottom/last question in this comment, I'd be interested to know.