passive_fist comments on Open Thread, October 20 - 26, 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: passive_fist 25 October 2013 05:25:59AM 2 points [-]

I can't see why you claim it's a stronger result. In the AI box experiment, the power is entirely in the gatekeeper's hands; in an interrogation situation the suspect is virtually powerless. This distinction is important because even the illusion of having power is enough to make someone less susceptible to persuasion.

Plus, police don't sit down with suspects in a chat room. They use 'enhanced interrogation techniques', methods such as an unfamiliar environment, threat of violence (or actual violence in some cases), and various other threats. An AI cannot do any of this to a gatekeeper unless the gatekeeper explicitly lets it out.

Comment author: ahbwramc 25 October 2013 01:14:29PM 3 points [-]

That's all certainly true, but the AI box experiment is still a game at heart. The gatekeeper loses and he's out, what, fifty bucks or something? (I know some games have been played - and won, I think? - with higher stakes, and those are indeed impressive). The suspect "loses" and he's out 20+ years of his life. It's hard to make a comparison but I think the two results are at least comparable, even with the power imbalance.