JoshuaFox comments on Why officers vs. enlisted? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: JoshuaFox 30 October 2013 09:30:06PM *  3 points [-]

Survivors who showed skill were promoted up including from sergeants to lieutenants.

Interesting. Yes, there were battlefield commissions.

Note that such promotions were given rarely and usually with a "brevet" designation to keep it from being exactly like the "real" thing.

But to the extent that this existed, it might fit into the framework of this post as a recognition of extreme and exceptional agentiness. Battlefield commissions were not, officially, given for skill, hard work, nor for filling the slot -- the usual reasons for a promotion -- but rather for "outstanding leadership on the field of battle."

that the Soviet military in the 1920s and 30s was close to a one-ladder deal.

Do you have a reference on that?

Comment author: Protagoras 31 October 2013 01:03:02AM 2 points [-]

I recall reading that Napoleon promoted enlisted men who showed conspicuous bravery to officers (I believe continuing a practice started by the French army during the revolution). The historian I read who discussed this practice said that the lack of education of these officers did prove a hindrance to the French at times, but there were also definite advantages to the practice; it produced officers who were conspicuously brave, and set a good example, and it gave the enlisted men incentive to try harder if promotion was possible. But perhaps the biggest benefit was that it guaranteed Napoleon could replace his losses; in most European countries at the time, only aristocrats could be military officers, and losses in the Napoleonic wars were high enough that some countries ran short of remotely suitable aristocrats to employ as military officers.

Comment author: Larks 31 October 2013 01:27:02AM 1 point [-]
Comment author: Douglas_Knight 31 October 2013 03:15:28AM 1 point [-]

He was commissioned because he was educated, so I don't think that's a good example.

Comment author: Lumifer 31 October 2013 12:51:48AM *  1 point [-]

Do you have a reference on that?

Nope, and I am too lazy to go search, but it would be consistent with the early Soviet emphasis on egalitarianism and their need to construct an army almost from scratch.