JoshuaFox comments on Why officers vs. enlisted? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: JoshuaFox 31 October 2013 01:45:25PM *  2 points [-]

Executives aren't a legally special class.

I'm pretty sure that executives have legal liabilities that non-execs lack, although that might apply in most cases just to the top execs.

For army officers the question doesn't arise.

The question of being legally allowed to do certain things? There are lots of duties in the army that only an officer can legally do but an NCO cannot, but not the other way around.

in the corporate cultures of our experiences,

I'm thinking of very large companies, including those I have worked in; and those I have read about. Startups allow agentiness to everyone.

Comment author: DanArmak 01 November 2013 02:28:59PM 0 points [-]

I'm pretty sure that executives have legal liabilities that non-execs lack, although that might apply in most cases just to the top execs.

Particular roles (CEO, board member, CFO, ...) have particular legal responsibilities. I don't think there's any law addressing executives or "top executives" as a class.

There are lots of duties in the army that only an officer can legally do but an NCO cannot, but not the other way around.

There are roles that require being an officer, sure. But more technically, they always require being an officer of a certain minimum grade. Other positions require being a non-officer of a certain grade or above. And plenty of technical positions require specific training and certification, regardless of officer status.

I'm thinking of very large companies, including those I have worked in; and those I have read about. Startups allow agentiness to everyone.

I would describe it as startups requiring agentiness from almost everyone qualified to work in a startup. Otherwise it becomes just a small company and probably fails.

The startup where I work is just now transitioning into a post-investment non-startup company with a board of managers. And so, for the first time, we're explicitly looking to hire non-agenty people to fill some junior roles. Agentiness is very much the word I'd use to describe some of our staffing decisions. But we still don't have anything like an exec vs. everyone else distinction. I'm one of two technical architects, a programmer, very agenty, and definitely not an "executive" (and I don't have any legally binding duties beyond an ordinary employee with a contract).

Comment author: JoshuaFox 02 November 2013 06:55:43PM 0 points [-]

explicitly looking to hire non-agenty people to fill some junior roles.

Interesting example of non-agentiness being considered a plus for some jobs.

Comment author: DanArmak 02 November 2013 07:31:20PM 2 points [-]

It's not a plus, it's an acceptable minus, a trade-off vs. a lower paycheck.