Bundle_Gerbe comments on Why officers vs. enlisted? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Bundle_Gerbe 31 October 2013 08:00:59PM 4 points [-]

Well, just because the rule doesn't by itself prevent all possible cases of inappropriate cross-rank fraternization doesn't mean it has no value. There are other norms and practices that discourage generals from hanging out with lieutenants, e.g. generals usually get fancy lodging separate from the lieutenants. I suspect that cutting off lower-ranking officers from fraternizing with enlisted men prevents what would otherwise be one of the more common problematic cases.

If the military were even more concerned with this problem, it could have three or more groups instead of two, say, enlisted, officers and super-officers. But there are also tradeoffs to having more groupings, so the military sticks with two (part of this might be historically contingent, maybe three groups would work just as well but everyone is just copying the consensus choice of two).

Comment author: JoshuaFox 31 October 2013 08:51:50PM *  0 points [-]

Good points. But they don't explain this arbitrary dichotomy.

it could have three or more groups instead of two,

Indeed it does -- 23 or so groups, which are the ranks.

I suspect that cutting off lower-ranking officers from fraternizing with enlisted men prevents what would otherwise be one of the more common problematic cases.

That's plausible, though we should be cautious of reverse reasoning: Did the Lieutenant/Sergeant border arise to prevent fraternizing across those levels, or is fraternizing across those levels considered extra-bad becauses it crosses the officer/NCO border?

I am not convinced that this is a good explanation for why the dichotomy exists in the first place.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 02 November 2013 04:43:53AM 0 points [-]

You should read up on the notion of Schelling point.