Ishaan comments on Rationality Quotes November 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Ishaan 01 November 2013 09:55:36PM *  1 point [-]

Parfit's Hitchhiker is not a "Newcomb-like problem"

Then you're defining it differently from the way I, and others, are.

My req's for a Newcomblike problem:

1) Individuals who make certain decisions seem to win at higher rates than individuals who do not.

2) As far as you know, the act of decision doesn't causally effect the likelihood of a win.

what where your reqs?

Comment author: V_V 02 November 2013 09:42:02AM 0 points [-]

1) Individuals who make certain decisions seem to win at higher rates than individuals who do not. 2) As far as you know, the act of decision doesn't causally effect the likelihood of a win.

These two requirements seem inconsistent.

I'd define a decision problem to be Newcomb-like if the payoff and the agent mental state (preferences, beliefs, decision procedures) are not independend conditional on the agent's decision.

Some of the problem on the list you linked are Newcomb-like, other are committment problems, other aren't even decision problems.

Comment author: Ishaan 02 November 2013 11:50:34PM *  -1 points [-]

My def. isn't inconsistent. Those who buy computers are less likely to die of malaria,

^that's an instance of Solomon's problem, which is considered a newcomblike problem.

It's the same as the fact that those who one-box are more likely to get more money in Newcomb's. A third factor (socioeconomic status, CTGA allele, agent's mental state prior to decision) accounts for the variance.

Comment author: V_V 03 November 2013 08:03:36AM *  0 points [-]

My def. isn't inconsistent. Those who buy computers are less likely to die of malaria,

Once you condition on all the available evidence, such as the socioeconomic status, these two events become independent.
Likewise, in the Solomon's problem, a genetic test that detects the lesion would destroy the Newcomb-like structure of the dilemma.