Nic_Smith comments on Rationality Quotes November 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Nic_Smith 10 November 2013 03:09:09PM -2 points [-]

How would you move Mount Fuji?

Take some time. Think about it.

Got an answer?

Good.

Throw it away.

You can't move Mount Fuji.

-- Stefan Kendall

Comment author: itaibn0 10 November 2013 04:38:43PM 11 points [-]

I bet he believes you can't walk on the moon either.

Comment author: Nic_Smith 10 November 2013 06:09:48PM 4 points [-]

Yet, no one has been on the moon in decades. Environmental circumstances cannot be ignored. You can't go to the moon right now -- maybe in some years, most likely not. "What can a twelfth-century peasant do to save themselves from annihilation? Nothing."

Comment author: AndHisHorse 10 November 2013 06:46:12PM 10 points [-]

That is true. There are some things that we cannot do. There are some things that we cannot do yet. There are some things that we can do, but have not.

The objection to the quote is that it seems to place "moving Mt. Fuji", as an example of some larger class, in the first class not arbitrarily, but in spite of the evidence (the fact that the audience has come up with an answer, if indeed they have). While the surrounding article makes a good point, the quote in isolation smacks of irrational defeatism.

As an alternative to the quote, I propose the following:

How would you move Mount Fuji?

Take some time. Think about it.

Got an answer?

I'll bet it's tremendously expensive, potentially devastating to the surrounding landscape, and requires the improbable cooperation of a lot of other entities.

Wouldn't it be so much easier to go around it instead?

Comment author: TheOtherDave 11 November 2013 12:53:48AM 3 points [-]

Well, if we're proposing alternatives, I would probably reduce this to "Before setting out to move a mountain, consider what moving it accomplishes and whether there are cheaper ways of accomplishing that."

Comment author: AndHisHorse 10 November 2013 06:01:25PM 4 points [-]

Why not?