ChristianKl comments on 2013 Census/Survey: call for changes and additions - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ChristianKl 05 November 2013 08:43:18PM 0 points [-]

I'd like a question about how politically active people are. Tentatively suggested list of answers: vote, vote in primaries, do research before voting, involved with parties, tries to influence legislation by contact with people who can affect it directly, has run for office.

"Do research before voting" seems like a strange formulation. It's has a ring of pulling an allnighter before an exam.

Comment author: DanArmak 05 November 2013 09:46:52PM 2 points [-]

It's has a ring of pulling an allnighter before an exam.

It's a good way to decide how to vote if you strongly believe you should vote, but you don't know much about the particular issue being voted on in advance. If the studying only affects your vote and not your other behavior, then why not put it off until the last moment before the election, when the most information is available?

Comment author: ChristianKl 05 November 2013 10:27:36PM 3 points [-]

If the studying only affects your vote and not your other behavior, then why not put it off until the last moment before the election, when the most information is available?

But it doesn't only affect your vote. Democracy lives from people discussing public events. Reducing democracy to voting seems like cargo cult democracy.

why not put it off until the last moment before the election, when the most information is available?

There very little real information that's made available right before an election. If you want to judge whether to elect party A or party B, you have to look at the track record of those parties.

Judging politicans by the promise that they make the month before election instead of judging them for the track record that they have gives all the wrong incentives.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 06 November 2013 12:19:56AM 5 points [-]

The track record is still available a month before the election.

Comment author: [deleted] 06 November 2013 09:49:54AM 0 points [-]

It's a better strategy than never getting informed about politics at all, though.

Comment author: ChristianKl 06 November 2013 12:00:20PM 1 point [-]

Yes, but I wouldn't use that strategy as a measure of whether someone is politically active.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 06 November 2013 12:42:15PM 1 point [-]

It strikes me as taking voting more seriously than than voting on the basis of a vague impression.

It might not be a measure of being politically active, though.

Comment author: [deleted] 06 November 2013 01:54:55PM 0 points [-]

It strikes me as taking voting more seriously than than voting on the basis of a vague impression.

...or even not voting at all.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 06 November 2013 01:59:31PM 4 points [-]

I'm curious about what proportion of LWers refrain from voting as a matter of principle, but I'm not sure whether this is worth putting in a questionnaire.

For that matter, I'm also curious about whether anyone was convinced to stop voting by arguments against it, as distinct from people who didn't vote and now had more reasons for not doing so.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 05 November 2013 10:00:46PM 1 point [-]

Also, following the news on a daily or even weekly basis means that you're going to get a lot of repetition.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 05 November 2013 08:52:39PM 0 points [-]

There may be a better way to phrase it, but different people certainly acquire varying amounts of knowledge before they vote.

Comment author: ChristianKl 05 November 2013 09:12:30PM 3 points [-]

I think twenty years ago the relevant question would have been: "Do you read the political section of daily paper?"

Today I'm not sure how to phrase the question.

Comment author: Xachariah 14 November 2013 08:15:54PM *  -1 points [-]

Everyone does research before voting according to them.

My family members aren't familiar with even the most basic differences between the executive and legislative branches, and routinely make mistakes that would be cleared up with a 1st year understanding of government. They attribute blame/praise to one branch that they couldn't possibly be responsible due to how the separation of powers works.

But they've all "done their research, and [they] know a lot better than [I] do about who to vote for."