TheAncientGeek comments on No Universally Compelling Arguments in Math or Science - Less Wrong

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Comment author: TheAncientGeek 05 November 2013 08:02:04PM -1 points [-]

I am not equivocating. By "successful" I don't mean (or exclude) good-at-things, I mean it is actually artificial, general and intelligent.

"Strong AI is hypothetical artificial intelligence that matches or exceeds human intelligence — the intelligence of a machine that could successfully perform any intellectual task that a human being can.[1] It is a primary goal of artificial intelligence research and an important topic for science fiction writers and futurists. Strong AI is also referred to as "artificial general intelligence"[2] or as the ability to perform "general intelligent action."[3] ".

To be good-at-things an agent has to be at least instrumentally rational, but that is in no way a ceiling.

Either "rational" means "effective", or it means "like a human". You can't have both.

Since there are effective humans, I can.

Comment author: nshepperd 05 November 2013 08:39:50PM -1 points [-]

Either "rational" means "effective", or it means "like a human". You can't have both.

Since there are effective humans, I can.

Right, in exactly the same way that because there are square quadrilaterals I can prove that if something is a quadrilateral its area is exactly L^2 where L is the length of any of its sides.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 05 November 2013 08:55:18PM 0 points [-]

I can't define rational as "effective and human like"?

Comment author: nshepperd 05 November 2013 09:35:44PM *  2 points [-]

You can, if you want to claim that the only likely result of AGI research is a humanlike AI. At which point I would point at actual AI research which doesn't work like that at all.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 05 November 2013 10:05:29PM -1 points [-]

It's failures are idiots,not evil genii