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Comment author: komponisto 12 November 2011 10:42:02PM 0 points [-]

Maybe instead of insiderhood, you should consider it merely as a signal of non-ignorance, specifically of the fact that "classical" is the name of a historical era.

I do, after all, openly rate Weird Al as aesthetically superior to the greatest classical masterpieces.

I didn't realize your aesthetic resources were so scarce as to put them in competition. Personally I think the world has plenty of room for both.

and I've never read...that book with the whale in it

I probably wouldn't care so much about it if it weren't the subject of an opera by the guy who wrote my favorite book.

Comment author: wedrifid 13 November 2011 04:02:27AM 0 points [-]

Maybe instead of insiderhood, you should consider it merely as a signal of non-ignorance,

I quoted the first sentence from wikipedia. That is the definition of classical music that matches what most people - most certainly including Nancy - mean when they say 'classical music'.

specifically of the fact that "classical" is the name of a historical era.

I am well aware of the historical era. Declaring that by relaying the common usage definition of 'classical music' I must be ignorant of the classical era is itself a strong signal of being unaware of how human language works.

One group in which I like to signal myself an insider is 'Science'. We still use the word atom for something that can be broken down into protons, neutrons and electrons - and even the latter is a simplification. The relevance should be obvious.

Comment author: komponisto 13 November 2011 04:34:23AM 0 points [-]

Declaring that by relaying the common usage definition of 'classical music' I must be ignorant of the classical era

No, it's just that by going along with that common usage you thereby decline to give a strong signal of non-ignorance. "Weak evidence" of ignorance, if you like.

We still use the word atom

I doubt that the common usage of "classical" preceded the naming of the historical period. In fact I suspect that the former did not become widespread until after it was already (erroneously) perceived that that sort of music was "old" and "over".