knb comments on [Video Link] PostHuman: An Introduction to Transhumanism - Less Wrong

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Comment author: knb 15 November 2013 08:44:35AM 0 points [-]

I also wonder if the extreme "abolitionist" position (with regard to suffering) should be listed along anti-aging and intelligence enhancement. Abolitionism seems like it might be off-putting even to people who might support the first two planks.

Comment author: davidpearce 14 January 2014 12:27:16PM 2 points [-]

"Health is a state of complete [sic] physical, mental and social well-being": the World Health Organization definition of health. Knb, I don't doubt that sometimes you're right. But Is phasing out the biology of involuntary suffering really too "extreme" - any more than radical life-extension or radical intelligence-amplification? When talking to anyone new to transhumanism, I try also to make the most compelling case I can for radical superlongevity and extreme superintelligence - biological, Kurzweilian and MIRI conceptions alike. Yet for a large minority of people - stretching from Buddhists to wholly secular victims of chronic depression and chronic pain disorders - dealing with suffering in one guise or another is the central issue. Recall how for hundreds of millions of people in the world today, time hangs heavy - and the prospect of intelligence-amplification without improved subjective well-being leaves them cold. So your worry cuts both ways.

Anyhow, IMO the makers of the BIOPS video have done a fantastic job. Kudos. I gather future episodes of the series will tackle different conceptions of posthuman superintelligence - not least from the MIRI perspective.

Comment author: somervta 15 November 2013 11:42:13AM 0 points [-]

It... was, wasn't it? Or did I mistake the bit about David Pearce and the elimination of suffering?

Comment author: knb 15 November 2013 08:24:36PM 0 points [-]

It was. I'm saying I don't think it should have been.