Salutator comments on 2013 Less Wrong Census/Survey - Less Wrong

78 Post author: Yvain 22 November 2013 09:26AM

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Comment author: Salutator 23 November 2013 10:20:22AM 1 point [-]

I threw a D30, came up with 20 and cooperated.

Point being that cooperation in a prisoners dilemma sense means choosing the strategy that would maximize my expected payout if everyone chose it, and in this game that is not equivalent to cooperating with probability 1. If it was supposed to measure strategies, the question would have been better if it asked us for a cooperating probability and then Yvain would have had to draw the numbers for us.

Comment author: Salutator 23 November 2013 10:37:12AM 3 points [-]

This was based on a math error, it actually is a prisoners dilemma.

Comment author: rocurley 23 November 2013 08:49:49PM 1 point [-]

I made a similar mistake, and randomly generated defect.

Welp.

Comment author: Oscar_Cunningham 25 November 2013 11:46:55PM 3 points [-]

I think accidentally choosing defect is probably the best possible outcome in PD; you get all the advantages of defecting, whilst your decision process still acausally causes other people to cooperate.

Comment author: Calvin 30 November 2013 06:56:28PM 1 point [-]

It can get even better, assuming you put your moral reasoning aside.

What you could do, is to deliberately defect and then publicly announce to everyone that it was a result of random chance.

If you are concerned about lying to others, then I concur, that accdientally choosing to defect is best of both worlds.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 30 November 2013 07:25:10PM 4 points [-]

What you could do, is to deliberately defect and then publicly announce to everyone that it was a result of random chance.

In the literal PD scenario, I imagine the subsequent converation would go:

"You accidentally informed on us? Okay, we'll accidentally shoot your legs off."