TheAncientGeek comments on 2013 Less Wrong Census/Survey - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 27 November 2013 09:22:09PM 3 points [-]

Assuming the standard model of quantum mechanics is more or less correct which enteties are ontologically basic?

1) Leptons and quarks

2) The quantum fields

3) The universal wave function

4) The Hilbert space where said wave function lives

5) The mathematics used to describe the wave function

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 21 June 2014 01:27:54PM 0 points [-]

Interesting, but this does not exactly mean the concrete is incoherent, more that QM isnt playing ball.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 21 June 2014 04:17:05PM *  2 points [-]

I could do this with any other theory of physics just as easily, e.g., in Newtonian mechanics are are particles ontologically basic, or are points in the universal phase space?

Edit: Also, I never said the concrete was incoherent, I said the concept of "ontologically basic" was incoherent.

Comment author: [deleted] 21 June 2014 06:03:36PM *  1 point [-]

You're arguing issues of cartography, not geography.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 21 June 2014 07:13:56PM 3 points [-]

No, I'm saying that the people asking whether something is "ontologically basic" are arguing cartography. Also it's funny how they only ask the question of things they don't believe exist.

Comment author: [deleted] 21 June 2014 07:44:21PM 2 points [-]

Ok I'm in agreement with that.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 21 June 2014 06:14:29PM *  0 points [-]

I don't that is clear cut, because space and points have often often been denied any reality

Concrete was my tablets version of concept.