bramflakes comments on The Craft And The Community: The Basics: Apologizing - Less Wrong

0 Post author: Ritalin 23 November 2013 04:55PM

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Comment author: bramflakes 23 November 2013 10:00:45PM 3 points [-]

It teaches them to cower in the shadow of the Leviathan. The reasoning being perhaps, that if kids can't be taught to value behaving ethically for its own sake, they ought to behave ethically anyway so that they aren't shamed in public. An example of Goodhart's Law?

Comment author: Ritalin 23 November 2013 10:36:29PM 0 points [-]

I don't get it.

Comment author: Benquo 23 November 2013 11:08:05PM 2 points [-]

Goodhart's law is the tendency, when using a proxy to measure a desideratum, to optimize for the proxy, rather than the desideratum.

In this case, the desideratum is feeling genuine regret about harming others, and the proxy is apologizing.