David_Gerard comments on Links: so-called "knockout game" a "myth and a "bogus trend." - Less Wrong

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Comment author: David_Gerard 25 November 2013 04:27:34PM 0 points [-]
Comment author: DaFranker 25 November 2013 04:31:18PM *  14 points [-]

Wrong thread? I don't see the relevance.

Comment author: satt 25 November 2013 06:41:12PM 4 points [-]

23andMe don't seem to've noticed. Clicking through to their website, the first thing I see is a picture of their DNA Spit Kit, with a $99 price tag next to an "order now" button.

Comment author: pinyaka 25 November 2013 07:48:24PM *  5 points [-]

No they didn't. 23andme is still up and running and the FDA complaint that you linked to simply prevents them from advertising certain benefits of genome testing. It's worth pointing out that, also according to the letter you linked, 23and me still had not provided proof of those claims 5 years after filing for permission to make them.

Comment author: Lumifer 25 November 2013 04:41:01PM 3 points [-]

Not good.

Comment author: Moss_Piglet 25 November 2013 05:02:49PM *  10 points [-]

It's worse than not good; if you read the news about this, it looks like the whole thing got kicked off by UnitedHealth complaining about 23andMe's affordability to the FDA. Who, being the dutiful little stooges they are, immediately went and started making unreasonable demands to 23andMe leading up to today's nonsense.

My guess on the reasoning; since insurers aren't legally permitted to use DNA tests to determine rates or eligibility, letting consumers figure out their own disease risk cheaply would give us an advantage in selecting plans and thus drive down their bottom line. That's just speculation, but it seems to fit pretty well.

Comment author: Lumifer 25 November 2013 06:25:18PM 1 point [-]

it looks like the whole thing got kicked off by UnitedHealth complaining about 23andMe's affordability to the FDA

Might be, but it also crossed my mind that under Obamacare the government has incentives to NOT let people make informed guesses about their future health.

Comment author: fubarobfusco 26 November 2013 03:55:53AM *  3 points [-]

"The government" isn't an agent and doesn't respond to incentives. It is a whole bunch of different people with different careers and roles. I wouldn't expect an FDA researcher, a naval officer, a State Department staffer, and a senator to have the same incentives regarding policy, for instance.

Which people do you think have an incentive like that?

Comment author: Lumifer 26 November 2013 04:00:19AM 4 points [-]

Which people do you think have an incentive like that?

The Administration, aka the White House.