Mayo comments on The Statistician's Fallacy - Less Wrong

38 Post author: ChrisHallquist 09 December 2013 04:48AM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (67)

You are viewing a single comment's thread. Show more comments above.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 10 December 2013 01:50:15AM 5 points [-]

Bayesians will realize that, since there's a good chance that of happening even when the conclusion is correct and well-supported by the evidence, finding mistakes in the statistics is only weak evidence that the conclusion is wrong.

I'm not sure why you think this conclusion is particularly Bayesian.

she dismissed Bayesianism in favor of orthodox statistics

You mean frequentism right? Then just say so. At this point Bayesianism is so widespead and so many statisticians use in practice both frequentist and Bayesian techniques such using frequentism as intechangeable with "orthodox" seems off.

Comment author: Mayo 13 December 2013 03:04:55AM 6 points [-]

Frequentism is as abused as "orthodox statistics", and in any event, tends to evoke a conception of people interested in direct inference: assigning a probability (based on observed relative frequencies) to outcomes. Frequentism in statistical inference, instead, refers to the use of error probabilities--based on sampling distributions-- in order to assess and control a method's capability to probe a given discrepancy or inferential flaw of interest. Thus, a more suitable name would be error probability statistics, or just error statistics. One infers, for example, that a statistical hypothesis or other claim is well warranted or severely tested just to the extent that the method was highly capable of detecting the flaw, and yet routinely produces results indicating the absence of a flaw. But the most central role of statistical method in the error statistical philosophy is to block inferences on a variety of grounds, e.g., that the method had little capacity to distinguish between various factors, biases, failing to give the assumptions of the models used a sufficiently hard time.

But the real reason I wrote is because the first few sentences of this post made me think that perhaps the professor was me! I'm glad to hear there are other female philosophers of science who are frequentists. yet it wasn't me, given the rest of the post.

Comment author: Cyan 13 December 2013 04:29:42AM *  0 points [-]

But the real reason I wrote is because the first few sentences of this post made me think that perhaps the professor was me!

Hah! Those first few sentences also made me wonder if it was you. But then I got to the part about the "pro-natural" agenda and decided it was unlikely.