RolfAndreassen comments on Rationality Quotes December 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: RolfAndreassen 09 December 2013 03:12:34AM *  0 points [-]

"I have a complete listing of this universe's source code," says Ching. "I'm theoretically omnipotent. It's just a matter of time."

-- Fine Structure

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 11 December 2013 02:27:50AM -1 points [-]

Shouldn't that be "omniscient"?

Comment author: RolfAndreassen 11 December 2013 05:16:35PM 3 points [-]

Nope. Firstly, code is not data. Secondly, in the physics of the fic, access to the source code enables you to install informational machinery in your brain, which can modify the universe in essentially arbitrary ways, because the universe is asserted to consist of a long series of statements like "there is a proton at location (x, y, z)" and so on.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 18 December 2013 05:28:01PM *  1 point [-]

A complete listing of the code is different from ability to change it, let alone feed the modified code back into the active interpreter (I'm going to guess that it's not a compiled language in this case). I suppose Ching also had this ability?

Comment author: RolfAndreassen 18 December 2013 07:51:52PM 1 point [-]

He did, yes, as I outlined in the parent of your post. Perhaps the quote needed a bit more context, but it's hard to find a pithy explanation of the background information.

That aside, I suggest that a full listing of the source code of the universe you're running in is the maximum potence you're likely to get, no matter which specific hacks it allows.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 19 December 2013 03:22:38PM 1 point [-]

How the frell did I miss that?

Seriously. WTF.

Out of fic, though, I doubt that knowing the laws of the universe immediately leads to 'maximum potence'. There are hard engineering problems.