passive_fist comments on Snowdenizing UFAI - Less Wrong

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Comment author: passive_fist 05 December 2013 10:57:37PM 1 point [-]

I would like to agree with you but experience says otherwise. Tyrants have always been able to find enough professionals with dubious morals to further their plans.

Comment author: JoshuaFox 06 December 2013 08:44:08AM *  1 point [-]

In World War I, German Jewish scientists contributed to the German war effort. In World War II, refugee scientist contributed to the Allied war effort. Tyrants can shoot themselves in the foot quite effectively.

A few top physicists were left in Germany, including Heisenberg, but it was not enough to move the project forward, and it's suspected that Heisenberg may have deliberately sabotaged the project.

But you have a point. So long as AGI is at the cutting edge, only a handful of top people can move it forward. As Moore's Law of Mad Science has its effect, "ordinary" scientists will be enough.

(And to make it clear, I am not suggesting that the US government is tyrannical.)

Comment author: ChristianKl 17 December 2013 03:10:40PM 0 points [-]

Tyrants have always been able to find enough professionals with dubious morals to further their plans.

There are plenty cases where government puts a bunch of incompetent people on a project and the project fails.

Comment author: JoshuaFox 24 December 2013 03:35:20PM 0 points [-]

if the project does not take safety into account, we want exactly this -- so long as it doesn't get close enough to success that failure involves paper-clipping the world.