XiXiDu comments on Siren worlds and the perils of over-optimised search - Less Wrong

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Comment author: XiXiDu 14 May 2014 05:19:34PM *  0 points [-]

I am a trained computer scientist, and I held lots of skepticism about MIRI's claims, so I used my training and education to actually check them.

Why don't you make your research public? Would be handy to have a thorough validation of MIRI's claims. Even if people like me wouldn't understand it, you could publish it and thereby convince the CS/AI community of MIRI's mission.

Then I recommend you shut up about matters of highly involved computer science until such time as you have acquired the relevant knowledge for yourself.

Does this also apply to people who support MIRI without having your level of insight?

But we exercised our skepticism by doing the background research and checking the presently available object-level evidence...

If only you people would publish all this research.

Comment author: [deleted] 14 May 2014 06:03:11PM 0 points [-]

Now you're just dissembling on the meaning of the word "research", which was clearly used in this context as "literature search".

Comment author: Jiro 14 May 2014 08:22:42PM *  4 points [-]

The idea is not to put it in a journal, but to make it public. You can certainly publish, in that sense, the results of a literature search. The point is to put it where people other than yourself can see it. It would certainly be informative if you were to post, even here, something saying "I looked up X claim and I found it in the literature under Y".

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