shminux comments on How to not be a fatalist? Need help from people who care about true beliefs. - Less Wrong

6 Post author: Laoch 07 December 2013 07:17PM

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Comment author: shminux 08 December 2013 01:03:58AM 1 point [-]

For my own part, I would agree that we are powerless to do anything other than what we are actually going to do.

To me "we are powerless to do anything other than what we are actually going to do" is either meaningless or tautological, so I am not sure how one can disagree with it.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 08 December 2013 01:24:57AM 0 points [-]

Well, I'm not exactly sure how either, but I suspect that if we asked a hundred randomly chosen people to agree or disagree with that statement, we'd find more disagreement than agreement. And perhaps I'm misunderstanding what Laoch means by "fatalism", but it was the first description here so I went with it.

Comment author: savageorange 09 December 2013 03:07:14AM 1 point [-]

I like the SEP phrasing better, even though it's only slightly different:

"we are powerless to do anything other than what we actually do"

Feels more sensible because the tenses are not jumbled.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 09 December 2013 04:16:44AM 2 points [-]

I can't think of a meaning one sentence has that the other one doesn't, so I'm happy to use your preferred sentence.