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I don't believe I entirely understand the point of view of fatalists.
Like all other animals, the behavior of humans is essentially the output of a great many number of inputs, much of it which can be explained physiologically. For example, chemicals in the air will bind to receptors in a rat's olfactory system which will in turn communicate to the rat all of the scents of its surroundings. An empty stomach will activate a rat's sympathetic nervous system that will cause it to search for food. Add a certain stimulus to the environment -- say, cheese -- and the hungry rat will gravitate towards it, eventually consuming it. Humans are very similar to mice in this pursuit of food, and if all actions (or outputs) were the results of similar simple physiological inputs, then I would be more inclined to accept fatalism.
But not everything can be explained in such a manner. Say I numbered 0 through 9 some odd assortment of chores I don't really want to do. Among them might include cleaning up my cluttered room, emptying the dishwasher, and sorting the pantry. I roll a balanced ten-sided dice or run a RNG simulator and the number I receive is 6. Six, however, was the number assigned to the most unpleasant task of all, scrubbing the toilet. Yet I still find some way to scrub the toilet despite it not contributing to survival or reproduction, not being a pleasant task, and being completely out of my direct decision.
As another example, I decide completely out of hand that I must begin to eat an apple a day because I want more natural vitamins in my diet. Was it my deficiency of vitamins that physiologically alerted me to the fact that I need more apples in my life? If not, how was I able to convince myself to eat more apples?
How exactly was I fated to scrub the toilet or eat the apples? Was there some malevolent being out there controlling the dice so it would land on 6? Or was it determined in some secular way that I was intended to roll a 6, despite a 90% chance that I would not? Did some benevolent being nudge me in the direction of apples, because it knew I was lacking essential vitamins? Or did my lack of vitamins provoke some unknown physiological response that caused me to think the thought, "I need more apples in my diet"?
The bottom line is that determinism, fatalism, and the like are not things that can be measured or observed using natural instruments. They cannot be theorized with mathematical proofs based on current understandings of science. They aren't extrapolated conclusions based on relevant evidence. So, they're superstition. Are they not?