DSimon comments on Rationality and the English Language - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Sniffnoy 25 October 2009 12:40:44AM *  13 points [-]

I have to point out, you've made a mistake of terminology here, one frequently pointed out at Language Log. You seem to have used "passive voice" to mean "construction that is vague as to agency". It's important to note weaseling, as you point out, but the use of passive voice isn't a good heuristic for that. Consider your own example of "Unreliable elements were subjected to an alternative justice process"; little of the weaseliness comes from the use of the passive. It wouldn't be much less weaselly if written as "When dealing with such unreliable elements, those responsible apply an alternative justice process." Who's responsible? I dunno.

Comment author: DSimon 10 July 2010 04:12:35PM 5 points [-]

Better yet, "When dealing with such unreliable elements, the authorities apply an alternative justice process." By not directly mentioning the notion of responsibility, we just have an authority doing properly authority-ish things, and the weasleyness is obscured fully once more.

Comment author: Sniffnoy 10 July 2010 05:50:47PM 1 point [-]

Yes, that is better.