Kaj_Sotala comments on Karma awards for proofreaders of the Less Wrong Sequences ebook - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Brillyant 14 December 2013 06:01:05PM 3 points [-]

The problem is that exactly what qualifies as "homework" is determined by the in-group. And, as I said, this is exactly how it works in the church.

Nevermind that though. My point was really that karma isn't tied to who is right, it is tied to who we like or who furthers our preferential ends. This karma-for-work deal is another example of that.

If karma is a popularity system, then fine. But there seems to be a lingering sentiment it is more about rationality, and how a given comment or commenter is in line with it. That's not the case when you are giving people points to do tasks.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 16 December 2013 09:53:20AM *  1 point [-]

My point was really that karma isn't tied to who is right, it is tied to who we like or who furthers our preferential ends.

Barring an objective method for telling what arguments are right, this is the way any human-run evaluation system (including e.g. formal peer review or university grades) has to work. You can try to eliminate the "who we like" part by trying to blind the identities of the people in question, but since one cannot assess degree-of-correctness directly, one has to rely on some other criteria, e.g. the extent to which the comment seems to take previous work into account. And those other criteria and their parameters, like what counts as "previous work", are ultimately set by an in-group consensus. (I felt that James Paul Gee had a particularly good elaboration of this.)

But I do agree that awarding karma for work distances karma from correctness even further than would be necessary. (Not sure whether it's a bad thing, though.)