timtyler comments on [LINK] David Deutsch on why we don't have AGI yet "Creative Blocks" - Less Wrong
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I disagree with this. The development of probabilistic graphical models (incl. bayesian networks and some types of neural networks) was a very important forward advance, I think.
A little bit of arrogance here from Deutsch, but we can let it slide.
Absolutely true, and the first camp still persists to this day, and is still extremely confused/ignorant about universality. It's a view that is espoused even in 'popular science' books.
I don't follow. You can write a program to generate random hypotheses, and you can write a program to figure out the implications of those hypotheses and whether they fit in with current experimental data, and if they do, to come up with tests of those ideas for future experiments. Now, just generating hypotheses completely randomly may not be a very efficient way, but it would work. That's very different from saying "It's impossible". It's just a question of figuring out how to make it efficient. So what's the problem here?
But the Turing test is very different from coming up with an explanation of dark matter. The Turing test is a very specific test of use of language and common sense, which is only defined in relation to human beings (and thus needs human beings to test) whereas an explanation of dark matter does not need human beings to test. Thus making this particular argument moot.
What else could it possibly be? Information is either encoded into a brain, or predicted based on past experiences. There is no other way to gain information. Deutsch gives the example of dates starting with 19- or 20-. Surely, such information is not encoded into our brains from birth. It must be learned from past experiences. But knowledge of dates isn't the only knowledge we have! We have teachers and parents telling us about these things so that we can learn how they work. This all falls under the umbrella of 'past experiences'. And, indeed, a machine who's only inputs were dates would have a tough time making meaningful inferences about them, no matter how intelligent or creative it was.
I cannot make head or tail of this.
Anyway, I stopped reading after this point because it was disappointing. I expected an interesting and insightful argument, one to make me actually question my fundamental assumptions, but that's not the case here.
My estimate is 80% prediction, with the rest evaluation and tree pruning.