ygert comments on Building Phenomenological Bridges - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ygert 24 December 2013 02:19:19PM 1 point [-]

Well, if subjectivity means "I decide what it is", then this is tautologically true. If you have a broader definition of subjectivity, then yes, they don't seem to have much to do with each other. It seems that he was using the first definition, or something similar to it.

Comment author: fubarobfusco 24 December 2013 03:06:25PM 1 point [-]

When I think of "things that are (defined to be) subjective", the idea that comes to mind is that of qualia. The perceiver of qualia isn't in control of them — if I'm experiencing redness, I can't really choose that it be blue instead. I can say that I'm perceiving blue, but I'd be lying about my own experience.

Comment author: ygert 24 December 2013 03:14:42PM 1 point [-]

Fair enough. I am just pointing out the solution to your confusion: You are talking past one another. Words can be wrong, and it is essential to make sure that such things are sorted out properly for an intelligent discussion.