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I always get confused by these articles about "experience", but this is a good article because I get confused in an interesting way, (and also a less condescending way).
Normally, I just shrug and say "well, I don't have one". In regards to "human-style conscious experience" my answer is probably still "well, I don't have one". However, clearly even if imperfect there is have some sort of semi functional agency behavior in this brain, and so I must have some form of bridge hypothesis and sensory "experience"... but I can't find either. I can track the chain of causality from retina to processing to stored beliefs to action, but no point seems privileged or subjective, and yet it doesn't feel like there's anything missing or anything mysterious the way other people describe.
Thus, a seeming discrepancy; I can't find any flaw in your argument that any agent must have feature X, but I have an example of an agent in which I can not find X. In at least one of the objects I've examined, i must have missed something.
Can you fully describe every stage?
Short answer: Yes. Longer answer: not simultaneously concisely, in detail, accurately, without looking up neuroscience articles, and without more expenditure of time and effort than I am willing to give it in the forseeable future.
"fully describe" is again a tricky thing to do about ANYTHING. Can you fully describe how your OS works?
The point of the hard problem argument is describability in proinciple: I cna describe how my OS works in principle.
Why would you need to look up neursicence to describe your subjective experience, as introspected by you? If you think "describe your experience" means "describe what happens in your head when you experiene as it appears to someone else, from an objective, 3rd person point of view", natruially you are not going to encounter anything subjective,
Oh, I missunderstood. That's much easier, here, have it in 3 different notations for extra clarity:
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Do you have any aesthetic prefernces?
Very much so. I tend to go out of my way to make things look just right, and add an artistic perspective and flare to everything, even things nobody will ever see.
Do you have preferences about colours, tastes and smells?
What colours are appropriate for something depends on context. There are tastes and smells that act as strong punishment and forces avoidance and escape behaviors although I'm not sure I'd call it a preference.
That's funciontality, not aesthetics.