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In the time it took you to compose this thinly-veiled ad homenim attack, you could have easily Googled, cut, pasted, and linked this definition which is supposedly so easy to find.
But instead, you prefer to change the subject from the definition of "refined carbohydrate" to my merit as a poster.
An ad homenim is an attempt to tarnish a person's position by criticizing the person. I'm not doing that at all and if anyone else is unable to a definition by googling they can ask me and I'll point that in the right direction. I brought up my opinion on you as a poster to explain to you why I'm not going to debate the subject with you.
But by all means, take my response as a concession. You're victorious and have successfully show Gary Taubes position to be unclear.
I have on many occasions, including this one, googled "refined carbohydrate" and I am not convinced that I have found anyone who means anything by it, let alone that a significant number of people mean the same thing by it.
Added: no, a lot of people do mean something: they mean "carbohydrate."
I just googled it. I suspect that the "refined" in "refined carbohydrates" is a stand-in for "bad, for reasons left unspecified."
Refined means that somebody has done something to it. Like for example purified it or changed it to something sweeter that get digested faster.
Well you have certainly criticized me. Although you claim that it was done simply to "to explain to you why I'm not going to debate the subject with you," you said nothing about that in your earlier post. Here's what you said:
Besides your nasty tone, there was nothing in there about it being an explanation for why you did not want to have a discussion with me.
I will -- it's pretty obvious why you keep trying to shift the exchange away from your earlier claim about the clarity of Taubes' position.
By the way, it's fascinating that you perceive a simple request for a definition as "debate." I haven't yet disputed that you have accurately summarized Taubes' position.
Back one more post:
I was trying to be polite...
If literally anyone else thinks this they are welcome to say so and I will talk with them about it. Done now.
If that's true, I would hate to see you trying to be unpleasant. You could have easily said -- right from the beginning -- "based on your previous posts I prefer not to engage with you." But instead you were nasty, rude, and by some strange coincidence, engaged in an "appeal to Google" when I put your position under a little scrutiny. And it was only then that you decided that you did not want to discuss substance with me.
Anyway, I am repeating my earlier request:
Please give me your definition of "refined carbohydrates" so that I can understand your view about Taubes' position.
TIA.