Brillyant comments on Critiquing Gary Taubes, Part 3: Did the US Government Give Us Absurd Advice About Sugar? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Brillyant 29 December 2013 08:03:20PM 1 point [-]

You'll have to restate this.

Comment author: ChristianKl 29 December 2013 08:49:18PM 4 points [-]

If you look at a modern home you can see that the surface area of heating equipment is important for a warm home. You could run and tell people who want warmer homes to increase that surface area.

In reality a much better advice is to turn the thermostat. You can be right about some parts but still miss the point.

There are multiple ways you can theoretically approach weight loss.

I think that calorie control is a center piece of the mainstream view.

As far as I can see preaching calorie control is not effective.

Gary Taubes focuses on reducing eating carbohydrates that raise insulin.

Another approach would be Seth Roberts set point frame. If you follow it than you give people nose clips and let them drink a bit of oil.

There are people who practice hypnosis who also operate on the set point model.

There are people who tell you that the key is about starting to listen to your body and perceive signals from it that most people ignore.

Comment author: fubarobfusco 29 December 2013 09:00:38PM 6 points [-]

There seems to be an anti-pattern for certain kinds of problems that involve one's habits, lifestyle, or emotions. The anti-pattern is that many people who do not experience the problem claim that the problem is easily solvable; whereas many people who do experience the problem claim that it is not easily solved.

People who have previously experienced the problem may fall into either category; whether they do seems to have something to do with how much continuity (or compassion?) they feel between their current self and their problem-having past self; or whether they have retained awareness of the specific transitions involved in solving the problem. (Kinda like some of the difficulties moridinamael recently pointed out regarding programming tutorials. Just because you've achieved X does not automatically make you a good guide for others who want to achieve X.)

This seems related to one of the things that folks who use the word "privilege" mean by it sometimes. We can probably come up with some less politically charged word for this specific anti-pattern, though.

Comment author: ChristianKl 29 December 2013 09:26:30PM 6 points [-]

I don't think that personal experience with the problem of wanting to lose weight is the only factor.

This is also a tribal conflict of academia vs. internet wisdom.

Stop eating so much carbohydrates isn't much more complex than, saying eat less calories.

Comment author: fubarobfusco 29 December 2013 09:30:14PM 1 point [-]

Good point. It seems pretty common for people who study social phenomena — even heavily moralized ones, like crime — to have more compassion for the people involved in them than the "conventional wisdom" does.