private_messaging comments on Why CFAR? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: katydee 01 January 2014 12:17:37AM 1 point [-]

Self-help instructors usually only have a track record of being good at making a living from being self-help instructors (which includes being good at self promotion to the relevant audience). As far as I know, CFAR staff are no different in that regard.

While to some extent I think this criticism may be valid, especially given the fact that it was a known factor prior to the foundation of CFAR, I think it's not entirely fair. Given that CFAR is more or less attempting to create a new curriculum and area of study, it isn't entirely clear what it would look like to have a proven track record in the field.

Now obviously CFAR would be more impressive if it was being run by Daniel Kahneman. But given that that isn't going to happen, I think the organization that we have is doing a fairly good job, especially given that many of their staff members have impressive accomplishments in other domains.

Comment author: private_messaging 01 January 2014 08:37:06AM 0 points [-]

it isn't entirely clear what it would look like to have a proven track record in the field.

Having a track record of creating something else that's unambiguously useful would be a start.

Mostly, people attempt to do grand and exceptional things either due to having evidence (prior high performance, for example), or due to having delusions of grandeur (prior history of such delusions). Those are two very distinct categories.

Comment author: katydee 01 January 2014 09:40:35AM 0 points [-]

Having a track record of creating something else that's unambiguously useful would be a start.

Certainly-- that's what I was discussing when I wrote "many of their staff members have impressive accomplishments in other domains."