Lumifer comments on Things I Wish They'd Taught Me When I Was Younger: Why Money Is Awesome - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Lumifer 17 January 2014 03:40:49PM 4 points [-]

if I am proved correct most of the potential counter-parties to that deal will be first against the metaphorical wall, and thus I do not get paid either way.

A fair point. However if you think that scenario is likely I would recommend to buy ammo and beans and not worry about high-tech things like AI.

for most of the history of capitalism finance and banking is where mediocre intellects with high conscientiousness scores went to earn a respectable boring living in a respectable boring job.

That is not true at all. It is so for accountants and tellers, but it is true for them in our days just as well. People who owned and managed high-level financial and banking institutions always had high risk and, if successful, high profits. Think about financing trading ships half across the world, financing wars and shaky monarchies...

The big banking houses did not rise through efforts of people with "mediocre intellects [and] high conscientiousness scores".

Comment author: [deleted] 20 January 2014 04:51:49PM *  6 points [-]

The big banking houses did not rise through efforts of people with "mediocre intellects [and] high conscientiousness scores".

Mediocre compared to whom? Certainly, from what I've heard, the skills necessary for banking are, in this order:

  • Consciousness/Work Ethic
  • Ability to socialize with the upper classes
  • Intellect

With the general level of intellect being roughly "can pass freshman calculus but not necessarily an entire engineering degree." Certainly bankers aren't stupid, but if you compare their job to what's necessary in science, medicine, professional engineering, or law, I do think they're the "dumb jocks" of the smart crowd.

Comment author: Lumifer 21 January 2014 07:29:19PM 1 point [-]

Mediocre compared to whom?

It's the term you used. I assume compared to the general population.

the skills necessary for banking

What do you call "banking"? As is true for every complex industry, there is a variety of things to be done which require diverse skills. An accountant, a salesperson, and an executive might all work in a bank but the skills they need are very different.

Comment author: gjm 22 January 2014 11:20:18AM -1 points [-]

It's the term you used.

It appears in fact to be the term Izeinwinter used; so far as I know, Izeinwinter and eli_sennesh are not the same person.

Comment author: Lumifer 22 January 2014 04:50:43PM 1 point [-]

It appears in fact to be the term Izeinwinter used

Yes, this is correct.