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Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 19 January 2014 09:48:19AM 2 points [-]

Finnish, wouldn't let unknown cleaning staff in my house unwatched. I'd need to get a safe, and I still wouldn't know that there isn't going to be an off-the-shelf hardware keylogger in my PC that will go live the next time I go online banking when I get back.

I'd probably be fine with strangers cleaning my house if I didn't need to worry about identity theft and digital security though.

Comment author: hyporational 19 January 2014 10:03:33AM *  0 points [-]

I hadn't thought of a hardware keylogger, but incidentally I have a lock in my PC case and the USB ports are visible. Do you know in what kinds of ports you could plug an off-the-shelf one? With the relevant skills you could probably plug a DIY one almost anywhere.

House cleaners are probably the antithesis of tech oriented people unless they do the cleaning for the specific purpose of cyber-theft, which could be convoluted if the companies require any kind of certification in cleaning. Ideally I would design my apartment as theft-proof as possible regardless of services from strangers though, so can you come up with any other scary scenarios?

Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 19 January 2014 01:48:33PM 2 points [-]

I hadn't thought of a hardware keylogger, but incidentally I have a lock in my PC case and the USB ports are visible. Do you know in what kinds of ports you could plug an off-the-shelf one?

No idea. The whole idea is that I shouldn't need to know much about physical data security on the principle that untrusted people can't physically access my machines.

House cleaners are probably the antithesis of tech oriented people unless they do the cleaning for the specific purpose of cyber-theft

I'm thinking of an organized crime operation that uses the house cleaners for easy access to people's homes and a ready-made hardware attack designed by someone else that the house cleaner just operates by rote instruction.

Also, I'm assuming the standard stereotypes for menial workers being utterly technology illiterate apply much less to anyone under 30 who grew up in a country with ubiquitous IT.