Creutzer comments on Literature-review on cognitive effects of modafinil (my bachelor thesis) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Creutzer 09 January 2014 07:23:45AM *  0 points [-]

Well, at least for me, not really. See also this post.

Comment author: Lumifer 09 January 2014 07:01:46PM 1 point [-]

See also this post.

I am talking literally about physical pain. Not about a general category of negative motivators.

I haven't thought deeply about that, but I would expect primitive things which motivate your lizard brain directly to be considerably more effective than whatever constructs parts of your conscious mind invent to try to motivate other parts.

Comment author: Creutzer 09 January 2014 07:06:27PM *  1 point [-]

I would expect that physical pain will only motivate immediately avoidant behaviors and will be as useless as any other kind of pain for helping sustained motivation needed to pursue long-term goals, which is usually where the problem lies. Because the lizard brain doesn't do long-term projects.

Physical pain is also kind of difficult to harness for any practical application to oneself, I suppose...

Comment author: Lumifer 09 January 2014 07:23:21PM 1 point [-]

useless ... to pursue long-term goals

I agree unless you are having difficulty with that first step which starts a journey of a thousand miles.

Comment author: ChristianKl 12 January 2014 12:51:59PM 1 point [-]

I agree unless you are having difficulty with that first step which starts a journey of a thousand miles.

When going a journey of a thousand miles it's useful to focus in the direction of your goal and go exactly in the right direction.

Comment author: Lumifer 13 January 2014 03:26:59AM 0 points [-]

Not really, humans rarely have to follow a ballistic trajectory :-) Given the ability to correct mid-course starting to move in exactly the right direction is unnecessary.

Comment author: Creutzer 09 January 2014 07:48:49PM 0 points [-]

Hm, I believe the creativity required to set up reality in such a way that I feel physical pain only as long as I don't start working on a certain project is beyond me… ;-)