grouchymusicologist comments on Variables in Arguments as a Source of Confusion - Less Wrong

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Comment author: grouchymusicologist 09 January 2014 02:12:33PM *  1 point [-]

I used to hear something similar in debates over gay marriage:

Gay person: "I only want to have the same right as a straight person: the right to marry the person I love."

Gay marriage opponent: "No no, you already have the same right as a straight person: the right to marry a person of the opposite sex. If you also want the right to marry a person of the same sex, you're asking for extra rights, special privileges just because you're gay. And that simply wouldn't be fair."

Edit: bramflakes beat me to it.

Comment author: SaidAchmiz 10 January 2014 12:00:24AM 5 points [-]

Gay person: "No no, I want everyone to have the right to marry a person of the same sex, even straight people! Equal rights for all — that's perfectly fair."

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 10 January 2014 07:58:43AM 3 points [-]

Generally: "Other people are also allowed to live in a society optimized for my utility function, so where is the problem?"