MugaSofer comments on Why I haven't signed up for cryonics - Less Wrong

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Comment author: MugaSofer 14 January 2014 07:26:48PM 0 points [-]

Well, obviously here you run into your priors as to what sort of tech level is implied by time travel - much as discussions of cryonics run into the different intuitions people have about what a future where we can bring back the frozen will look like.

("The only economic incentive for such an expensive project - except perhaps for a few lucky individuals who would be used as entertainment, like animals in a zoo - would be to use them as an enslaved labor force.")

With that said ...

... once time travel has come into play, surely all that matters is whether the magical technology in question will eventually be developed?

Comment author: Jiro 15 January 2014 12:32:49AM *  0 points [-]

once time travel has come into play, surely all that matters is whether the magical technology in question will eventually be developed?

Not only do you need to have time travellers, you need to have time travellers who are interested in reviving you. The farther in the future you get the less the chance that any time travellers would want to revive you (although they might always want someone for historical interest so the chance might never go down to zero.) The more advanced the technology required, the longer it'll be and the less the chance they'll want to bother.

Perhaps you could go the cryonics-like route and have a foundation set up whose express purpose is to revive people some time in the future in exchange for payments now. While unlike cryonics there is no ongoing cost to keep you in a position where you can be saved, the cost to keep someone wanting to save you is still ongoing. This would still be subject to the same objections used for cryonics foundations. Of course, like cryonics, you can always hope that someone creates a friendly AI who wants to save as many people as it can.

There's also the possibility that some technology simply will not be developed. Perhaps there are some fundamental quantum limits that prevent getting an accurate remote scan of you. Perhaps civilization has a 50% chance of dying out before they invent the magical technology.

Comment author: MugaSofer 15 January 2014 09:30:15AM -1 points [-]

Not only do you need to have time travellers, you need to have time travellers who are interested in reviving you. The farther in the future you get the less the chance that any time travellers would want to revive you (although they might always want someone for historical interest so the chance might never go down to zero.) The more advanced the technology required, the longer it'll be and the less the chance they'll want to bother.

Like I said, I guess this comes down to how you imagine such a future looking beyond "has time travel". I tend to assume some sort of post-scarcity omnibenevolent utopia, myself ...

There's also the possibility that some technology simply will not be developed. Perhaps there are some fundamental quantum limits that prevent getting an accurate remote scan of you. Perhaps civilization has a 50% chance of dying out before they invent the magical technology.

Before they invent any magical technology, you mean. There's more than one conceivable approach to such a last-second rescue.