Apprentice comments on AALWA: Ask any LessWronger anything - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Apprentice 12 January 2014 10:17:41AM 2 points [-]

What probability would you assign to this statement: "UFAI will be relatively easy to create within the next 100 years. FAI is so difficult that it will be nearly impossible to create within the next 200 years."

Comment author: JoshuaFox 12 January 2014 01:57:45PM *  10 points [-]

I think that the estimates cannot be undertaken independently. FAI and UFAI would each pre-empt the other. So I'll rephrase a little.

I estimate the chances that some AGI (in the sense of "roughly human-level AI") will be built within the next 100 years as 85%, which is shorthand for "very high, but I know that probability estimates near 100% are often overconfident; and something unexpected can come up."

And "100 years" here is shorthand for "as far off as we can make reasonable estimates/guesses about the future of humanity"; perhaps "50 years" should be used instead.

Conditional on some AGI being built, I estimate the chances that it will be unfriendly as 80%, which is shorthand for "by default it will be unfriendly, but people are working on avoiding that and they have some small chance of succeeding; or there might be some other unexpected reason that it will turn out friendly."

Comment author: Apprentice 12 January 2014 03:11:24PM *  2 points [-]

Thank you. I didn't phrase my question very well but what I was trying to get at was whether making a friendly AGI might be, by some measurement, orders of magnitude more difficult than making a non-friendly one.

Comment author: JoshuaFox 12 January 2014 07:11:43PM 3 points [-]

Yes, it is orders of magnitude more different. If we took a hypothetical FAI-capable team, how much less time would it take them to make a UFAI than a FAI, assuming similar levels of effort, and starting at today's knowledge levels?

One-tenth the time seems like a good estimate.