Dr_Manhattan comments on AALWA: Ask any LessWronger anything - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Dr_Manhattan 13 January 2014 02:23:14AM *  4 points [-]

I like the idea.

Here we go, things that might be interesting to people to ask about:

  • born in Kharkov, Ukraine, 1975, Jewish mother, Russian father

  • went to a great physics/math school there (for one year before moving to US), was rather average for that school but loved it. Scored 9th in the city's math contest for my age group largely due to getting lucky with geometry problems - I used to have a knack for them

  • moved to US

  • ended up in a religious high school in Seattle because I was used to having lots of Jewish friends from the math school

  • Became an orthodox Jew in high school

  • Went to a rabbinical seminary in New York

  • After 19 years, accumulation of doubts regarding some theological issues, Haitian disaster and a lot of help from LW quit religion

  • Mostly worked as a programmer for startups with the exception of Bloomberg, which was a big company; going back to startups (1st day at Palantir tomorrow)

  • self-taught enough machine learning/NLP to be useful as a specialist in this area

  • Married with 3 boys, the older one is a high-functioning autistic

  • Am pretty sure AI issues are important to worry about. MIRI and CFAR supporter

Comment author: MugaSofer 28 January 2014 05:26:12PM *  1 point [-]

self-taught enough machine learning/NLP to be useful as a specialist in this area

Speaking as a nonexpert, I'm curious what similarities, parallels, and overlap you see between these two fields.

Comment author: Dr_Manhattan 29 January 2014 12:55:34AM 2 points [-]

Modern NLP (Natural Language Processing) uses statistical methods quite a bit - http://nlp.stanford.edu/fsnlp/

Comment author: Anatoly_Vorobey 13 January 2014 02:47:48PM 1 point [-]

How did your family handle your deconversion? Do you continue with the religious Jewish style of everyday life?

Do your kids speak Russian at all/fluently? If not, are you at all unhappy about that? What about Hebrew?

If you're comfortable discussing the HFA kid: at what age was he diagnosed? What kind of therapy did you consider/reject/apply? What are the most visible differences from neurotypical norm now?

Comment author: Dr_Manhattan 13 January 2014 09:50:19PM 1 point [-]

Hi Anatoly,

Initially it was a shock to my wife, but I took things very slowly as far as dropping practices. This helped a lot and basically I do whatever I want now (3.5 years later). Also transferred my kids to a good public school out of yeshiva. My wife remains nominally religious, it might take another 10 years :)

My kids don's speak Russian - my wife is American-born. I prefer English myself, so I'm not "unhappy" about them not speaking Russian in particular although I'd prefer them to be bilingual in general. They read a bit of Hebrew.

I'm happy to discuss my HFA kid via PM.

Comment author: jazmt 06 February 2014 05:18:27AM 0 points [-]

Is your wife still teaching your kids religion? How do you work out conflicts with your wife over religious issues (I assume she insists on a kosher kitchen, wants the kids to learn Jewish values etc)

Comment author: Anatoly_Vorobey 14 January 2014 01:21:06AM 0 points [-]

So glad to hear you got your kids out of yeshiva. Way to go!

Did you meet your wife via shidduch or more traditionally? If you ever did shidduch: I'm curious if in the orthodox circles in the US a Baal Teshuva faces a tougher challenge in shidduch than someone who grew up in a frum family. This is very much the case in Israel. Here I've heard tales of severe discrimination and essentially second-class status.

What's the attitude in orthodox circles towards Conservative/Reform Jews? (not the official one, but the "on the street" sort of thing, if it exists...). Is there any dialogue between the branches at all? (As you probably know, Conservative/Reform barely exist in Israel).

Comment author: Dr_Manhattan 14 January 2014 01:34:41AM *  1 point [-]

Met my wife through a Shidduch, though the Shadchan was my friend and both of us were BTs, so it wasn't quite Fiddler on the Roof. The BT thing made my transition out easier, now my in-laws love me even more :).

I attended a modern and strangely rationalist Yeshiva - they really attempted to reconcile Torah with modern science ala Maimonides. I just concluded you can't pull that off in the end. The attitude to conservatives there was "well, they're wrong, but let's not make this personal", mostly treating them as "tinock shenishbh". The guy who started it was mostly a nice guy, and he used most of the allowed vitriol to attack the stupidity and superstition of the right. I can't speak for other yeshivot or sects from personal experience, but I imagine this was somewhat unusual.

Funny - my biological father's last name was Vorobyev. I guess that makes us cousins :-p