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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 17 January 2014 06:52:27AM 2 points [-]

Human nature. Most people can't see past their own nose. In fact some people have such a massive problem finding empathy for other people that they act, for one example, racist and intolerant to other people. To put it simply, I think human kind has demonstrated how selfish and cruel it can be when left unrestrained. To have an entirely free market and everything private owned would be to let free and even propel all of the nasty things inside people. Just as without laws we will have (more) people hurting each other in society, so too do we need to regulate how people economically interact with each other

And yet you believe the proses of taking a government job magically cures people of all these problems?

Comment author: A-Lurker 17 January 2014 07:02:06AM 0 points [-]

No not by magic and it doesn't fix every single problem. But just look at one example if you want to understand my point of view; before fire fighters were socialised, there existed a time in the US where people had to pay private companies or have their house burn down. Socialism didn't magically cure anything but simply removed some of the opportunity for bad things to happen. Can you tell me how your point refutes the fire brigade example?

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 17 January 2014 07:08:56AM 2 points [-]

But just look at one example if you want to understand my point of view; before fire fighters were socialised, there existed a time in the US where people had to pay private companies or have their house burn down.

Now they have to pay (higher) taxes or be arrested for tax evasion. What's your point?

Comment author: A-Lurker 17 January 2014 07:33:18AM 1 point [-]

My point is that fires are put out because they are fires and no fire brigades watch a house burn down anymore. You think it means nothing?

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 17 January 2014 07:44:08AM -2 points [-]

Under the old system people had two choices:

1) Pay a private fire company.

2) Take the risk their house will burn down.

The new system is equivalent to the old except people can only make choice (1) and the private fire company is now a public fire department.

Your claim appears to be that the new system is an improvement even though people have strictly fewer choices.

Comment author: A-Lurker 17 January 2014 07:59:44AM *  -1 points [-]

The difference is the new system doesn't let houses burn

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