DanielLC comments on Stupid Questions Thread - January 2014 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: DanielLC 20 January 2014 07:58:45PM 0 points [-]

That's very different from saying "you are a random observer-moment" as you did before.

I meant observer-moment. That's what I think of when I think of the word "observer", so it's easy for me to make that mistake.

If I am now a specific observer - I've already observed my present - then I can drastically narrow down my anticipated future observations.

If present!you anticipates something, it makes life easy for future!you. It's useful. I don't see how it applies to anthropics, though. Yous aren't in a different reference class than other people. Even if they were, it can't just be future!yous that are one reference class. That would mean that whether or not two yous are in the same reference class depends on the point of reference. First!you would say they all have the same reference class. Last!you would say he's his own reference class.

I do not treat myself as a random person; I know which person I am.

I think you do if you use UDT or TDT.

Comment author: DanArmak 22 January 2014 10:16:20AM 0 points [-]

I think you do if you use UDT or TDT.

I'm not an expert, but I got the impression that UDT/TDT only tells you to treat yourself as a random person from the class of persons implementing the same decision procedure as yourself. That's far more narrow than the set of all observers.

And it may be the correct reference class to use here. Not future!yous but all timeline!yous - except that when taking a timeful view, you can only influence future!yous in practice.