TheOtherDave comments on Dangers of steelmanning / principle of charity - Less Wrong
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I'm reminded of Bret Victor's recent comment on reading Latour:
That, to me, is a principle of charity well applied. I wouldn't at all say that steelmanning is a stronger form of that -- a rationalist trying to steelman Latour would be like your Roman trying to steelman progressivism. Steelmanning is about constructing what you see as stronger versions of an argument, while the principle of charity is about trying to get into your interlocutor's head under the assumption that whatever they're saying or doing seems reasonable and right to them. The latter is much harder and rarer, in my experience, although that's not to say the former isn't more valuable in some situations.
You describe some real problems with steelmen. I think a first-order defense against them is just to ask whether your interlocutor agrees with your steelman or not.
Agreed completely.
This formulation of the principle of charity also reminds me a lot of Miller's law.