Prismattic comments on Dangers of steelmanning / principle of charity - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Prismattic 15 January 2014 05:14:41AM *  0 points [-]

What would steelmanning Young Earth Creationism even look like? Young Earth Creationism is already the playdoughman* version of Creationism. If you steelman it, it wouldn't be Young Earth anymore.

*If I'm never remembered for anything else in the rationalosphere, I would like to be known as the creator of the term "playdoughmanning".

Comment author: Kawoomba 16 January 2014 10:43:26AM 5 points [-]

If I'm never remembered for anything else in the rationalosphere, I would like to be known as the creator of the term "playdoughmanning".

Please stop with the prismatticmanning of tortured neologisms. The ensuing syllabilistic explosion might pose a memetic hazard (Great Filter = Tower of Babble).

Comment author: Will_Sawin 16 January 2014 06:30:27PM 3 points [-]

It would be amusing if the single primary reason that the universe is not buzzing with life and civilization is that any sufficiently advanced society develops terminology and jargon too complex to be comprehensible, and inevitably collapses because of that.

Comment author: Kawoomba 16 January 2014 06:56:28PM 0 points [-]

?Que?

Comment author: Will_Sawin 16 January 2014 10:50:58PM 0 points [-]

That's what the Great Filter is, no?

Comment author: [deleted] 16 January 2014 05:36:09PM 4 points [-]

What would steelmanning Young Earth Creationism even look like?

http://squid314.livejournal.com/327646.html

Comment author: ChrisHallquist 16 January 2014 02:13:36AM 3 points [-]

What would steelmanning Young Earth Creationism even look like? Young Earth Creationism is already the playdoughman* version of Creationism. If you steelman it, it wouldn't be Young Earth anymore.

I don't dispute this, except that this is also how I feel about some of the views some other people in the rationalist community think deserve to be steelmanned.

Indeed, is there ever a case where it isn't at least plausible that the steelman version of view X wouldn't be view X anymore?

Comment author: MugaSofer 17 January 2014 01:39:07AM *  -1 points [-]

What would steelmanning Young Earth Creationism even look like?

Aliens Did It? Seems to be used in that capacity sometimes.

playdoughman

That's a real view so weak it resembles a strawman of a real belief, yes?