almondguy comments on 2013 Survey Results - Less Wrong

74 Post author: Yvain 19 January 2014 02:51AM

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Comment author: private_messaging 19 January 2014 02:24:50PM 1 point [-]

The 2012 estimate from SATs was about 128, since the 1994 renorming destroyed the old relationship between the SAT and IQ. Our average SAT (on 1600) was again about 1470, which again maps to less than 130, but not by much. (And, again, self-reported average probably overestimates actual population average.)

It's very interesting that the same mistake was boldly made again this year... I guess this mistake is sort of self reinforcing due to the uncannily perfect equality between mean IQ and what's incorrectly estimated from the SAT scores.

Comment author: Vaniver 19 January 2014 09:16:43PM 5 points [-]

Actually, I just ran the numbers on the SAT2400 and they're closer; the average percentile predicted from that is 99th, which corresponds to about 135.

Comment author: [deleted] 21 February 2014 04:26:47PM 1 point [-]

2210 was 98th percentile in 2013. But it was 99th in 2007.

I haven't seen an SAT-IQ comparison site I trust. This one listed on gwern's website for example seems wrong.

Comment author: Vaniver 21 February 2014 09:30:38PM *  1 point [-]

2210 was 98th percentile in 2013. But it was 99th in 2007.

If I remember correctly, I did SAT->percentile->average, rather than SAT->average->percentile; the first method should lead to a higher estimate if the tail is negative (which I think it is).

[edit]Over here is the work and source for that particular method- turns out I did SAT->average->percentile to get that result, with a slightly different table, and I guess I didn't report the average percentile that I calculated (which you had to rely on interpolation for anyway).

This one listed on gwern's website for example seems wrong.

It's only accurate up to 1994.