alexey comments on L-zombies! (L-zombies?) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ThisSpaceAvailable 08 February 2014 07:39:23AM 3 points [-]

But you see Eliezer's comments because a conscious copy of Eliezer has been run. If I'm figuring out what output a program "would" give "if" it were run, in what sense am I not running it? Suppose I have a program MaybeZombie, and I run a Turing Test with it as the Testee and you as the Tester. Every time you send a question to MaybeZombie, I figure out what MaybeZombie would say if it were run, and send that response back to you. Can I get MaybeZombie to pass a Turing Test, without ever running it?

Comment author: alexey 10 February 2014 01:33:03PM 0 points [-]

Suppose I've seen records of some inputs and outputs to a program: 1->2, 5->10, 100->200. In every case I am aware of it was given a number as input, it output the doubled number. I don't have the program's source and or ability to access the computer it's actually running on. I form a hypothesis: if this program received input 10000, it would output 20000. Am I running the program?

In this case: doubling program<->Eliezer, inputs<->comments and threads he is answering, outputs<->his replies.

Comment author: Lumifer 10 February 2014 07:00:46PM 0 points [-]

Am I running the program?

No, you've built your model of the program and you're running your own model.