Alicorn comments on White Lies - Less Wrong

38 Post author: ChrisHallquist 08 February 2014 01:20AM

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Comment author: Mestroyer 10 February 2014 12:47:21AM 13 points [-]

Thanks for telling the truth. But downvoted for "I dislike this position, don't want to hear it defended, and will punish those who defend it." This is a much stronger rationalist anathema than white lies to me.

Comment author: Alicorn 10 February 2014 02:46:21AM 0 points [-]

I think it's worth distinguishing between punishing discourse in general and personal social consequences. Chris, the OP, has literally been physically in my house before and now I have learned that he endorses a personal social habit that I find repellent. I'm not trying to drive him out of Less Wrong because I don't like his ideas - I didn't even downvote the OP! - but it seems weird that you feel entitled to pass judgment on the criteria I have for who is welcome to be in my house.

Comment author: Mestroyer 10 February 2014 03:22:00AM *  0 points [-]

it seems weird that you feel entitled to pass judgment on the criteria I have for who is welcome to be in my house.

Edit: separated these two quotes. LessWrong comment formatting stuck them together.

I think there should be negative social consequences to announcing one's willingness to lie and that there should be significant backlash to issuing a public request that people put up with it.

I don't care whether you let him in your house. You've publicly shamed him, and you are saying that this kind of status-attack is the just response to a particular argument, regardless of how it's presented. You also seem to be vilifying me and dodging my complaint by portraying my judgement as against your home-invitation policy, rather than against your public-backlash policy, which I resent as well.

Comment author: Alicorn 10 February 2014 03:27:13AM 0 points [-]

"Vilifying you"? Because I didn't understand the thrust of your criticism because you didn't understand the point of my post? I'm tapping out, this is excessive escalation.

Comment author: Mestroyer 10 February 2014 03:29:50AM 3 points [-]

Sorry, that was uncharitable. Tapping out is a good idea.

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