lmm comments on Skepticism about Probability - Less Wrong

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Comment author: cousin_it 27 January 2014 12:33:24PM *  2 points [-]

I think De Finetti's justification is fine as far as it goes, but it doesn't go quite as far as people think it does. Here's a couple dialogues to illustrate my point.

Dialogue 1

A: I have secretly flipped a fair coin and looked at the result. What's your probability that the coin came up heads?

B: I guess it's 50%.

A: Great! Will you accept a bet against me that the coin came up heads, at 1:1 odds?

B: Hmm, no, that doesn't seem fair because you already know the outcome of the coinflip and chose the bet accordingly.

A: So rational agents shouldn't necessarily accept either side of a bet according to their stated beliefs?

B: I suppose so.

Dialogue 2

A: I believe the sky is green with probability 90% and also blue with probability 90%.

B: Great! I can Dutch book you now. Here's a bet I want to make with you.

A: No, I don't wanna accept that bet. The theory doesn't force me to, as we learned in Dialogue 1.

Comment author: lmm 27 January 2014 12:36:19PM 4 points [-]

In Dialogue 1 I adjust my probability estimate as the bet is offered, no?

Comment author: cousin_it 27 January 2014 12:53:37PM *  2 points [-]

That's a reasonable thing to do, but can you obtain something like De Finetti's justification of probability via Dutch books that way?

Comment author: JGWeissman 27 January 2014 05:19:27PM 1 point [-]

The obvious steelman of dialogue participant A would keep the coin hidden but ready to inspect, so that A can offer bets having credible ignorance of the outcomes and B isn't justified in updating on A offering the bet.