AndyWood comments on Rationality & Low-IQ People - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Viliam_Bur 03 February 2014 09:18:50PM 8 points [-]

This would be interesting to know: Do we (however we define the "we" group) really have more akrasia, or are we just more aware of it?

Comment author: Emile 03 February 2014 10:07:55PM 7 points [-]

I think others are just more likely to call it "laziness" or "procrastination". The word "Akrasia" seems like some weird lesswrongian turn of language that doesn't really shed much more light.

Comment author: Creutzer 04 February 2014 02:04:40AM 3 points [-]

Actually, I'd argue that it's the word "laziness" that obscures matters. It suggests someone who just doesn't want to work and thinks that's alright, or is at least ambiguous between that and akrasia. And procrastination is specifically postponing things all the time; not all akrasia is like that. You can acratically fail to make use of a one-time opportunity.

Comment author: Emile 04 February 2014 09:09:43AM 3 points [-]

"I hate myself for being lazy" has 36.000 results on google, which suggests some people at least don't think it's alright (i.e. don't use the same definition as you).

But even if the term "Akrasia" was clearer than "lazy" (I agree it may be), you could say:

  • "Akrasia" is clearer than "Laziness" because it has a more precise meaning
  • "Laziness" is clearer than "Akrasia" because much more people know what the word means

I don't really think our use of the word is a problem tho, it's just worth keeping in mind that we're trading off a little bit more precision for being less understandable to the outside world. But that's always going on with jargon.

Comment author: wedrifid 04 February 2014 10:39:50AM -1 points [-]
  • "Akrasia" is clearer than "Laziness" because it has a more precise meaning
  • "Laziness" is clearer than "Akrasia" because much more people know what the word means

Also:

  • "Akrasia" is clearer than "Laziness" because the things people believe about laziness tend are often false and so not what is being referred to.
Comment author: Stabilizer 04 February 2014 01:30:32AM 0 points [-]

But Viliam_Bur is referring to akrasia and all of it's related phenomena.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 04 February 2014 03:42:57AM 0 points [-]

(however we define the "we" group)

It heavily depends on how we define "we". None, measure implicitly that weighs people by frequency of comments will find that "we" have much worse akrasia than one that doesn't.